Не было части Джамбудвипы? В любом случае, я добавил, что ;) Привет Ланка, я реагирую на то, Сутта ChrisW приводил выше. Кроме того, люди пишут, что "остров для себя", возможно, более точный перевод. Это не про "сын мой" или нет, но о монахе, который разработан позже как "мошенник" (ваш термин, я думаю, это не подходит есть): будет рассказ о Девадатта подходят на ваш вопрос? Девадатта был давно очень уважаемый монах, часть Сангхи, но потом построили сообщество с сыном (Аджатасатту (?)) местного короля Бимбисары (последний друг Будды), чтобы обогнать того, респ. царство (последний был успешным для Аджатасатту). (Одна сутра, например, 5.100, но есть несколько, которые на мой взгляд показывают, как Будда справился с этим проблема)

Согласно Панде, Т. В. рис Дэвидс места хронологию nikayas на полпути между parnibbana и Ашока, который принимает современные дату parinibbana около 400 г. до н. э. бы на месте состав nikayas около 325 г. до н. э., Всего лишь через 75 лет после смерти Будды, но после Parayana Вагга, Octades (Atthakka Вагга), и Patimokkha. В Atthakavadda и Parayanavagga может быть найден в Кхуддака Питаку, как четвертый и пятый разделы Suttanipata. В pattimokkha конечно суммирование Винаи. Таким образом, представляется, что самые старые части Палийский канон. (Г. С. Панде, исследования в Происхождение буддизма, 5-е изд., Дели: Мотилал Banarsidass 2006, стр. 20.)

Gombrich говорит о том, что nikayas середине 4-го века до нашей эры. Руперт Гетин критикует эту точку зрения и говорит о том, что они несколько позже, "несколько поколений" после parinibbana. ("Гетин на Gombrich: что Будда думал")

По данным отмечено Университета Торонто буддолог А. К. Вардер "приказ пяти" традиции " [ссылаясь на агамы, на.к.а. nikayas] происходит также порядок их подлинность". Первым из них является Дигха Никая (санскр. Dirgha Агама). Надзиратель утверждает, что это доказано "сравнение различных изданий". Б. С. закон делит Дигха пополам, поместив первую часть раньше, чем вторая и третья части, в которой проставить дату в Nikayas, и различает более ранней pattimokkha из 152 правил и позже pattimokkha из 227 правил. Надзиратель также считает Ksudraka или малой традиции наименее подлинные части канона. В то же время он признает Khadgavisanaghata, Munigatha, Sailagatha, Arthavargiyani Sutrani, Parayana, Sthaviragatha, Sthavirigatha, и Ityukta представляет собой "оригинальное ядро Ksudraka общие для всех школ", а Udanas, Джатак и Avadanas ", кажется, по крайней мере по своему происхождению, было ничего, кроме антологий из Трипитаки." (Вардер, Индийский буддизм, 3-е перераб. изд., Дели: Мотилал Banarsidass, 2000, стр. 196ff.).

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